Victor1st - Game Industry "Expert"

Inflation of site hits and podcast downloads are a given when it comes to Victor1st and his sites (StarTrek-Gamers.com and Trek-Online.com (he owns Trek-Online.com, WildCard is just too dumb to realize it)).

But he also inflates his own importance and accomplishments. Its almost comical to watch his little crew shake their heads up and down even when they know that he's doin it... but for them its easier to do that then to call him on it and get blasted with wanna Vics classic attacks. Like most pathological liars he gets tripped up in his own BS eventually... and bam we have today's example.

Some say that Vic and Katie are one and the same. Some say they are not. However one has to wonder why Katie always shows up when Vic isn't there... or why Katie and Vic share near identical grammatical and spelling patterns... why Katie and Vic have never had a photo together yet have no problem posting individual photos... why Katie and Vic share the same IP address on the forums they've been on... why Katie doesn't seem to show up at all on the official Bethsoft Trek game boards... and why Katie has never made an appearance on the Argus Array.

Despite community callouts for a photo of both together none was ever shown. Ya'd think that having her on the podcast is a easy way to dispel that mystery. Even good buddy Wildcard had this to say about the 'Vic is Katie' Theory:

Quote from Wildcard:
Now you have Victor registering on Taldren's forums, the Dynaverse.net forum's, and a few other forums. Always with Katherine registered as well, because she always makes a post as well usually first. Now when Victor acts like the raving lunatic he is and get banned you see him cry

Victor1st Quote: "they have banned the entire staff of the webs #1 Fan Game site"

I used to be a moderator on the STGD when my Mod "The Near Distant Future" was hosted there, I saw Victors, Katherine's, and Nicole's email addresses and IP. I know. His explanation to me was that they (Nicole and Katherine at the time) use his computer.

Have you ever wondered why when Vic or Katherine gets banned they all get banned? I know why, they are all the same person, Victor has only one IP and it belongs to all the persona's he has aka Tony, Victor, Katherine, and Nicole. It happened when he got banned at Taldren, Dynaverse.net, and the STGU.

He has used aliases to get in IRC channels and gain SOP rights. Used Fake Gamespy Wizard Names, he has been caught red handed registering on multiple forums as Victor and Katherine and having the same IP address.

I can't really say if Katie exists or not... but the circumstantial evidence that she doesn't is pretty heavy. This post isn't about her existence though... its about him inflating things... and oddly enough how (as has been repeated in the past) Katies experiences morph into Vics experiences and vice-versa.

So it should come to you as no surprise that Katie who has been around since the very beginning of Vic being around... up and out of the blue in a STG News posting entitled "The Storm On The Horizon" posted in 2005 Katie made this astounding never before mentioned revelation:

Author: Katherine [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:17 am ]
Post subject: Re: The Storm On The Horizon
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Ok, tried to look at Jaz post, all i seen was the picture of a little new born kid crying. Sorry Jaz, your posts don't cut it here with me any long. I've been in the gaming business for 5 years. First working for Activision, now working freelance for BliZZard and iD.

I look at this franchise and all I see is a joke, thats all i see now, A JOKE.

Wow! Up until this point Katie nor anyone else had ever mentioned anywhere their involvement with these companies. If she was working freelance at those companies in 2005 and has been doing it for five years that means whe was working AT Activision during the glory days of Star Trek Gaming.... AND NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT IT! In Fact she was condemning and criticising Activision... the very company she supposidly worked for.

Smells like Katie's new found industry experience is nuthin but a WHOLE crap load of BS doesn't it?

However oddly enough everyone kinda just took it at face value. Oh there was some who questioned it... but as usual whenever it was questioned the response never came or was ignored and some other aspect of the person questioning it was attacked in order to draw attention away.

So Katie suddenly became a 'industry expert' whenever she needed to pull out that card to inflate her standing and prove she knew more then whoever it was she was arguing with. Vic was there of course standing by "her" side affirming it.

Now we come to the here and now... when through the magic of BS suddenly Victor himself reveals HE'S been working in the gaming industry. Incredibly doing the very same things Katie was supposedly doing. Here are the posts:

Victor1st: I deal in the real world of Star Trek gaming and the franchise that goes with it, this site has ties with all the games developers and publishers. I myself used to work for PC Gamer magazine in its UK division, Katherine has worked for Activision, bliZZard, iD, eidos and a host of other smaller game developers so you see...we know a thing or two about gaming communities. STG isnt just an oridinary fan gaming site, this is the longest running, oldest independant gaming site of this franchise. The staff of this site has been in the gaming world for longer than half of you kiddies have been alive.

So you see here is an example of Vic saying Katie did all this work (which has grown over time... another Victor1st liar trademark). Now its hard keepin multiple identies seperate and here we see Vic having difficulties... although I suspect he just wants to transfer the BS prestiege he gave to Katie to himself....

Victor1st on Official Boards:As for telling me to "get real" maybe when you have worked for PC Gamer, Activison and iD like i have then you might have a leg to stand on when talking about the business of PC Gaming. Until then i advise you not to treat me like like one of the devs in here, cause i am liable to bite back...hard.

Take note of how Victor1st clearly identifies himself as the person who now has all the game industry experience. Opps! LMAO! Victor1st doesn't think anyone is watchin or cares about the truth... Bzzzt! Looks like you just got yourself tripped up in one of your many lies Victurd... ole "Gaming Industry Vetern".

You have to feel sorry for Victor1st... no doubt there isn't a day that goes by where he doesn't feel the sting of the truth that the guy he loves to hate... ChessMess... is working in the game industry getting paid to work on Star Trek games... and he sits in his little room trying to create a little 'empire' and being bitch slapped at every turn by this blog and those who won't stand for his lies and bullying... having to pay out to be a wannabe in the Star Trek gaming franchise.

So Katie says nothing about working in the industry until years later... Victor doesn't say anything about it until years later... Vic is clearly caught lying and saying he has gaming industry experience he was once attributing to Katie... and neither has ever said exactly what they did or proved it in any form. PC Gamer UK? Where are the articles with author "Victor Mullin"? None. Maybe their freelance Blizzard work was being in the limited 10,000 member WoW beta? ROFL!!

Next time they spout off to you about working in the industry... say "Prove It". They can't of course... because they never did and this clear as daylight Victor1st caught in his own lies example proves it. Its just one of a never ending list of BS pumped out by Victor1st at StarTrek-Gamers.com and elsewhere.

Ha! Sorry Victurd... and Katurine.... we don't buy your BS. Don't just sit there readin the blog Vic... you got some covering up to do! LMAO!

The world of Double Standards

Remember a couple months ago when Wildcard and Victor1st went on a slam fest about some 'minor' getting flamed at STGU? Posting news on the front page of the site with such as:

"STGU Members now Bash Minors" by Victurd 6/3/06"

Yeah, its another one of those STGU topics again, however this was brought to my attention by Wild of trek-online.com and in my eyes this sinks to the lowest of the low.

STGU admins and staff are now allowing the flaming of MINORS in there forum with the offending flamers not being banned.

For more details of the latest screw up courtesy of the fallen 3rd reich over in STGU visit http://www.trek-online.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1010

Bashing grown ups is one thing, and ChessMess deserves everything he gets. However allowing the bashing of MINORS who have Parental Permission to join a GameSpy hosted board not only breaks one of the fundamental rules of GS hosting, it also lays STGU staff wide open to be prosecuted by the actual parents of the same kid who was bashed around by brainless posters in STGU.

The moral of the story?

If you are a parent and let your kids play trek games, dont allow them to visit STGU any longer. if ya dont agree with the stuff that goes on in this site then you have a 3rd alternative which is of course www.trek-online.com whos forums are more family orientated than STG and now STGU."

and Wildcard's "STGU Members Now bashes kids for liking site" 6/2/06 which is too long to repost here (I'll throw it into the comments).

So Victurd and Wildcard make this huge deal about one member flaming another and how STGU didn't have Coppa stuff and wasn't kid safe etc etc. Wildcard saying his site takes measure to protect kids etc etc.

Course we all really knew what it was about... nothing more then another 'opportunity' to blast STGU for something... to try and drag them into the mud and make them look bad.

So now when members are Startrek-Gamers are bashing minors... using such language as...

{=XA=}AdmChong wrote:
And yet again, you have turned this personal. How dare you bring my sister-in-law and niece into this. Accusing Cheech of beating his wife and child?? You’re an A$$ and you have gone too far. You were warned, yet you continue to degrade my brother and myself. Now bitch, this has turned personal.

and much worse (what happened at STGU was sugar coated gumdrops compared to the language and hate being slung at STG). All the things that Victurd and Wildfart were so against has gone down at STG... yet nary a single word about it on the front page of their sites. No one was banned... days of this before one thread is locked and it continues on in others.

Vic wanted it to be clear that "If you are a parent and let your kids play trek games, don't allow them to visit STGU any longer." but they shut up when it goes on their site at a level 100x worse then anything that was at STGU.

That is what is known as Double Standards...
   something that Victor1st, Acidrain and Wildcard live by.

Nice Artwork

Someone emailed me this image today....



Apparently you can do this kind of stuff as long as you have a disclaimer on the picture. Go ahead and feel free to email sean@trek-online.com about how much you like or dislike his modifications ta Kin's artwork.

Remember when Wildcard opened his site because he hated Vic and the drama he caused and how he wanted a drama free and friendly site. Now its admin is trashing artwork to help make fun of other sites while they post 'rumor' attacks in hidden threads and on the front page of the site. Amazing what the need for traffic will make a person stoop to.

Kind of shows how buddy buddy Trek-Online STG and Kinneas are gettin. Funny how Vic has ended up with Trek-Online's main news poster (turning WC's site into nothing but a copy machine for Trek Gaming news) as well as Zach's main co-host. Wonder if Vic helped Zach to get back on his feet like Zach helped him by bringing him into the Trek gaming podcast world? Hmmmmmmmm.... course we know the answer to that one already.

Touching a Nerve

LMAO! Obviously VicTurd loves this blog because hes been quoting from it long enough. Just recently to try to counter the truth that Victurd removed the publicly viewable counter results from his site when people asked why the numbers he spouts as the site hits were drastically different then what the independant 3rd party counter service he had on the front page of his site... he posted the following:

Victurd1st: "How many hits is STGU getting? Ohh, thats right, they REMOVED the counter when STG published the 5 million hit notice 4 months ago."

Of course that is total BS... you know the old saying "The truth hurts".... must have burned old Victurds buns to have the truth about him removing the public hit counter on his website because the numbers he said were not even close to what the site was actually doing.

Wanna prove how many hits your getting Victurd? Easy... put an independant 3rd party public viewable counter back on the main page. That would be an easy way to shut up the doubters wouldn't it Vic? Course then it'd also be a easy way to prove just how much BS you've been pouring out about the hits on your site.

So, the very action Victurd takes kinda is indicative of the truth.... not that removing the counter in the first place indicated his guilt enough... not putting one back tells you the same.

Here is something fun... check out the results of a Googlefight between Star Trek Gaming Universe and Star Trek Gamers...

Star Trek Gaming Universe Vs. Star Trek Gamers

I have to admit I think the results of this one is much more telling...

Victor1st Truthful Vs. Victor1st Liar

The secret for high contest participation? BS of course!

Some peeps out there are thinkin that the days of BS are over. You see thats just a pipe dream... something you wanna believe because the person normally feeding the BS to you has been behavin.

Obviously you've heard the phrase "lay low until the heat blows over". Thats what old TrickyVicky has been doing. Keeping relatively quiet... letting the news about the new star trek games flow and hopefully bring some new blood to his site. He lays low and the drama subsides and people start thinking things are back to normal and then... slowly... quietly... he starts slippin in the BS.

Now you remember the latest contest held by StarTrek-Gamers.com for fans of Star Trek Games, the Wallpaper Competition. Here is the details as he announced in the STG Wallpaper Contest thread at the official forums.

You can read the full details but the part you need to pay attention to is this...

"All entries will be viewed by the STG staff and then a set of top 5 wallpapers will be sent over to Bethesda Softworks for them to pick the winning entry."

Now its cool to have a contest... nice to give something away you got for free ... so whats the deal? hehe Ya see its so nice that he can't help but slip in some BS with it. Why? Because thats what Victor1st does. So where is the BS?

Simple... like a magician he does his trick while he has your attention focused on something else. In his post announcing the winner of the contest he slips in the BS while you are looking the other way. So you read the post... and your focus is on finding out who won... you probably didn't even notice the BS. Let me point it out to you...

Victor1st says: "A total of 84 entries (was 90, some was doubles) with 40 people taking part in it in total. The wallpapers covered the whole spectrum, from single ships to whole fleets, from simple designs to breathtaking arrays of graphical fortitude."

Now remember... he's been layin low so he's starting the BS again in nice small doses. You see Victurd likes to 'inflate numbers' in order to make him and his site look big. You've probably seen him gloat about the number of hits his site gets. Funny thing about that... he use to have a counter on the front page of his site that was public readable. You could click on the counter and see what the actual numbers were. When he got called on the difference between what he was saying and what the counter was saying... it got removed! lmao!

He doesn't just do it with numbers... he does it with changing history as well... but I'll save that for the next post.

So if you haven't caught it yet... the BS part is the 90 entries. Bzzzzzzt BS Alert! BS Alert! This is a classic example of VicTurd adding a bit of BS to inflate his site. Ok... so your asking how is it that I know he didn't get 90 entries other then inside info which I can't reveal to you? Simple...

1. He has never displayed 84 entries in any form.
2. There has been nowhere near 40 people posting about submitting entries on his forms or the official forums.
3. If you have 40 people sending in the max of two entries each and you removed the doubles (because there was 90 entries)... you should have at max 80 entries. Yet somehow there is 84 entries. Opps!
3. Here is the real kicker... he only submitted 4 entries to Bethesda.

Now in a contest where the rules are that you send the top 5 wallpapers... and you have 84 entries to choose from... why would you only send 4 entries?

Simple... because you didn't have enough submissions from different people to actually send 5 entries. Which just proves that the entire "we got 90 entries" is total BS!

Oh I'm sure he'll cover the BS with more BS. "Katurine forgot to send in 5" or "The other 80 were disqualified". How about showing us all those other 80 entries Vic? lol Surely you can get your pooshiper AcidBrain to mock up 80 wallpapers asap. Or maybe they got deleted with the server actin up... along with the 40 email addresses.

See... you probably thought the air was clean and the BS gone... nope, it's still here... and thankfully... so is this blog.

Victor1st of StarTrek-Gamers.com ... We Don't Buy Your BS

The calm before the Poostorm

Someone emailed me asking if the blog was over. hehe nope, not by a long shot... but over exposure to VicTurds stuff has given me a bad case of BS poisoning so I had to spend time in the hospital recouping . I have some BS to post about that you just won't believe VicTurd thought he'd get away with... it'll leave you shaking your head.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee


... anyone seen that TV show called Lost? I heard they have a new guy on there... his backstory was that he was going across the ocean on a cruise and the ship crashed and he wound up on the island. Apparently he was going to be a Partner on a Star Trek Gaming website...

Thoughts De Jour

How many Venra's are there? According to my notes we have:

Jenny Venra
Katie Venra
Nikki Venra
Claire Venra

and then we have Vic, all one big family.

Hmm... why is Vic's last name Mullin if all these others are... by his own admission... his sisters. Was he adopted or something? Updated: Cousins! .. all in the same house apparently? lol

What ever happened to Nikki and Claire?

How come they all shared the same IP address on various forums as Vic? When one got IP banned on Taldren's board, suddenly they all got banned. Guess they all lived in one big house? Same street? Strange.

Here is something else odd... Vic's said his site exists thanks to his late Sister Jenny... and for a long time he had info on his site about Jenny. Suddenly that info is gone, removed, deleted. Why would he do that? (Update: It's there, just not linked in)

Food for thought... eat up... draw your own conclusion as this isn't an Anti-BS post... just a 'things that make you go hmmmm' post.

StarTrekGamers.Blogspot.Com Shuts down The BS

Not to toot my own horn but facts are facts. Since this blog has been running we've put a clamper on VicTurds lips and knocked some sense into Wildcard. Victor1st wouldn't admit it in a 1,000 years but I know we had an impact on him running his mouth. Now he just can't spew the bull because he knows he'll get called out on it. The truth slices through his bull like nobody's business. Sorry VicTurd... you lose.




Still waiting to hear the news about that partner....

Not so smug now are ya?

You see it happen in movies all the time.... classic school scenario where the kid who wants to do good is taunted, picked on, thrown rocks at and lied about by the bullies that think it fun to cause such misery on him and others... simply because they can.

Then at some point in the future the bullies get their comeuppance. They show up somewhere... acting all tough and bully like... only to find the guy they once treated like crap owns the place. LOL

Can you imagine the reaction VicTurd had when he went to the new Star Trek forums... the ones him and Wildcard and all their little stooges have been so looking forward to opening... and found that ChessMess is a moderator there?



I would have paid to see the expressions on their faces! LMAO!! Acid4Brain posted a thread questioning the 'moderator selection' given so many in the community (ie.. VicTurds stooges) doesn't 'trust' one of them (he didn't have the guts to say Chess's actual name). That thread lasted all of 4 minutes I'm thinking and it got whacked. LOL!

Ole VicTurd and WildCard had the first two locked threads within the first hour of the board being up. LMAO! These two and their stooges are neutered pups over there... don't expect them to spread the BS or cause problems less the hand of Chess smite them. Bwahahaha!

Classic movie ending where the kid whom the bullies picked on and tormented ends up being in a position to kick their arse... I love it!

Victor1st cries "They Stole Our Ideas"

There are many things you'll hear VicTurd say repeatedly... "I wet myself".... "I made in my pants"...."They stole our ideas".

Its amazing that StarTrek-Gamers has been ripped off so much. Why can't other sites do their own original things and not steal Victor's ideas? Lets take a look at all STG has to offer and highlight the originality...

• STG CLAN BASE
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  So STG has a listing of clans... something thats been done on the Internet before his site even existed. In fact STG itself says they 'stole' the idea from a site that listed Star Trek clans long ago... the Ferengi Commerce Authority. Not only is the software they are using something they got from another site.. even the name 'STG ClanBase' is 'stolen' from another popular clan based community site... www.Clanbase.com


• STG CENTRAL FORUMS
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  Forums... forums... I can't think of a single fansite that has ever used forums before. LMAO! We don't even need to say anything about this one... kinda like saying you were the first to create breathing.
  
  


• HARDTALK INTERVIEWS
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  Interviewing people isn't new... and neither is STG's slant on it. VicTurd confesses he 'stole' the idea from this BBC show.
  
  


• HISTORY OF TREK GAMES
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  VicTurd cries that people copy his ideas... and yet the idea for a 'history of' informational like that goes back hundreds of years. You can find 'history of' articles all over... Video Games, Quake, Twinkies you name it. VicTurd would tell you he had the idea for doing a history of Star Trek games first. Course the problem with that is... Gamespot did it before him.
  
  


• DOWNLOADS & PATCHES
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  Obviously claiming originality in offering downloads is complete bull... sites have had that for years. Yet if you put up Star Trek gaming downloads you fall into the 'they stole our ideas' group... how laffable is that? Before VicTurd was doing it... before ArmadaFleetCommand was doing it... a site called STAMODS was doing it... and did it bigger then anyone else.
  
  


• GAME NEWS & INFORMATION
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  Fansites for games predates VicTurd by years and years. Star Trek fansites about Star Trek games predates VicTurd by years and years... way back to fansites about the Star Trek games they ran on old mainframes. Nothing original in this.
  
  


• STGN NEWS SYSTEM (FORUM BASED NEWS SYSTEM)
  DID STG COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  VicTurd had a big announcement about the 'Star Trek Gamers News Network' when he first released it. Big opening of their new forum based news system... even had a demo you could watch... claimed it was a Trek gaming first! LMAO! Truth of the matter is STG was using the TUN news system (called ONSCREEN) for a year or so prior. TUN stands for Trek Universe Network... you probably know it better by its current name.. Star Trek Gaming Universe (STGU.com). Yep... VicTurd was using STGU's forum based news systme (which also had a 'demo' you could watch). So fact of the matter is TUN did it first... VicTurd used it... then he creates a copy of it for STG and claims he did it first. LMAO!! ...and he screamed 'They Stole Our Ideas' when Trek-Online used a forum based new system.
  
  


• PODCASTS
  DID STGY COPY THE IDEA FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE: Yep
  
  Where did STG come up with this original idea to do a podcast? Where else... from STGU.com's Hailing Frequency. ChessMess was the first person on the net to create a podcast dedicated to Star Trek gaming... leave it to VicTurd to yell out "They Stole Our Idea".
  
  

They offer some other minor things like hosting but claiming those as original would be like claiming you were the original creator of water. Pretty clear on just how many 'original ideas' VicTurd comes up with. The old story about throwing rocks in glass houses or the teapot calling the kettle black fit like a glove. Sorry VicTurd... the fact that you 'say' their your original ideas... doesn't make them original ideas. It just makes you look like an idiot.

Next time you see VicTurd or Katurine or any other STG stooge yelling about stolen ideas... post a link to this blog article so they know... you don't buy their BS.

STG previous parnter - History lesson Pt 4. - Final

This is Part 4 of a multiple Part Blog Post, Read the other parts here:
[ Announcement ] [ part 1 ] [ part 2 ] [ part 3 ] [ part 4 ]

Wow... what a long history lesson for all you fans out there! This is the final lesson and it isn't really about Tony at all... but shows the hate spins and outright lies that continued once VicTurd1st and Katurine 'returned'. Here is one of the first posts made to the front page of StarTrek-Gamers after Tony left:

Posted front page of stgd 1/22/05

An email to Lang and Chessmess...

It is now time for STCD to come clean with the emails we are sending
Paramount and Chessmess of STGU...

Whats wrong ChessMess...dont want to answer?

What about you Harry? Dont want to answer?

You are 2 of the people who have pushed this as far as it can go, i
will now push it further. I am Victor, the director of STGD.

STGD will revert back to the Star Trek Clan Directory now as more and
more clans TRUST and SUPPORT me and this site more than ChessMess and
Paramount.

As for you Mr Lang, you answer to your bosses...I hope the
representative of Mr Redstone goes easy on you.

Chess, run away like you done with the people of UT...run chess, run...coward...

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The above is a section of an email i sent to both Harry Lang and
Chessmess. I also made references to the people behind trek-online who
support the rape of females of trek gaming, a site which Paramount and
Chessmess of STGU support. Gamespy have been made aware of the support
that STGU give "WildCard" who was responsible for the threats against
Katie, WildCard supports rape, it means that trek-online (which
literally stole all of STGD's downloads) supports rape. Mr Buskirk
(aka wildcard) threatened to sue STGD cause it was "a terrorist
threat" that was last year, however it seems Mr Buskirk is a coward we
never received that lawsuit...he knows if a lawsuit happens his site
would bite the dust and he would land in jail. Therefore STCD (this
site is now the Star Trek Clan Directory) is now at war with Wildcard
and trek-online.

I warned you all, i warned Paramount...people and clans have been
jumping down this sites throat to answer cowards like Wildcard who
support rape. Now the time has come. Paramount and Harry Lang seem to
support sites like STGU ran by ChessMess (another coward) who also
supports Wildcard. Mr Redstone will take care of lang. It's the STCD's
job to shut down all the others sites ran by brainless morons like
Chessmess who havent played a trek game in 2 years.

The time of the STCD is now upon us. ALL TRUE clans and fleets of trek
gaming, all TRUE modders of trek gaming and all TRUE gamers of trek
gaming, send me your complaints against the franchise. I GUARUNTEE you
it will be posted on the front page of this site. It is time for the
franchise holders to stop IGNOREING the clans and start LISTENING to
you, the clanner, modder and gamer of trek gaming. STGU lied when they
said they are the longest running trek game site. Trek-online lied
when they said they supported trek gaming and was the no.1 trek game
site. Both of these sites are trying to steal visitors from STGD, why?
Because Wildcard and Chessmess are both cowards. Chessmess is well
known in the clan community of UT as a "shafter", someone who double
crosses gamers. Wildcard is not even heard of outside of SFC 3 cause
his fleet "GQ" got whacked by fleets outside of SFC 3, why? Cause
Wildcard is also a coward. He lets his other fleet members handle his
problems for him, the mark of a true yellow streak.

Trek-online CHARGE you, the trek gamer for some of there
services...they are CHARGING YOU for the courtesy of using some of the
setvices of there site which they directly copied off the STGD...do
you see us charging you? No, you do not. trek-online are in this to
make a profit, they are in this to make money from you the trek gamer,
they have taken all the ideas of the STGD and put it in there site,
all the while, a rape supporter like WildCard is creaming off the trek
gaming populace...its the mark of a coward.

This site may now fall under Star Trek Clan Directory rules, but if
you are a clan, if you are a modder and if you are a gamr of trek
gaming, and you want the TRUTH about this franchise and what state it
is in, you keep looking at this site and visit the forum when it is up
and running. You will get a shock.

This site was based on a site which was here in 1999, STGU and
trek-online have been lieing to trek gamers about the state of this
franchise for the past 2 years. It is STCD's job to set the record
straight.

I am Victor1st, i answer and stand up to anything i say, and you are
now reading the front page of the Star Trek Clan Directory. Go to
trek-online ran by wildcard (rape supporter) or STGU ran by chessmess
(trek-online supporter) and ask them if there sites have been running
for more than half a decade, if they say yes, they are liars. This
site is the longest running trek game site on the net. We receive more
than 12,000 hits a day. No one else in the trek game fan site genre
can come near us. If this site was as bad as STGU and trek-online was
saying, do you think we would still be here?

No, i didnt think so.

Also, new sites, supported by STGU which are built for the new MMORPG
have also been seen with there own close knit staff supporting the
bashinf of the site, heres a thread from "startrek-online[.net]" which is
supposed to be "for the community". It might interest all the fleets
and clans out there that this is one of the sites whos members
supported the "curtailing" of the fleet system of ST-online. Don't
belevie me? Go read the various threads about fleets in the official
boards. Even there own so called "independant" moderator takes a jab
at this site in his responce before locking the thread. Yes folks
startrek-online.net are anti clan, anti fleet and anti stgd after
banning all the members of the STGD staff from posting in there forum.

http://www.startrek-online.net/community/showthread.php?t=472

That is the future of "indepandant community sites" yeah, if you wanna
community site ran by brainless spinless wannabees...you can visit the
above site.

Is it any wonder that StarTrek-Gamers and Victor1st harassed both ChessMess and Harry Lang out of the community. Harry Lang, the only paramount representative to ever take the time out to visit and interact with Trek Gaming fans and here VicTurd is calling him a Rape support... calling for his resignation for his job... and him and his staff are sending letters to the CEO of Viacom to get him canned. Finally he gets fed up with it and leaves and... surprise... now there is no representative for Star Trek games from Paramount anywhere to be seen. Way to go VicTurd! Ya did a great service for the community there.

As usual the post is chocked absolutely full of VicTurds trademarked lies and spin. So many that its easier to point out what was true about the post. Here are the parts of the post that were true:

• I am Victor, the director of STGD
• The above is a section of an email i sent to both Harry Lang and
  Chessmess. (if that was just a section... you can imagine how bad the rest of it was)
• ..It's the STCD's job to shut down all the others sites..
• STCD (this site is now the Star Trek Clan Directory) is now at war with Wildcard and trek-online ..and every other site that doesn't agree with STG
• I am Victor1st

Thats it... all the rest are either outright lies or spins on the truth. So you see that StarTrek-Gamers has been wrecking havoc in the community for years... and until VicTurd gets locked up or has his Internet taken away... it will continue... indefinitely. So it looks like this blog will be here for a long long time as well...

We Don't Buy Your BS

Hope you enjoyed your history lesson... and note that since the history lessons began... StarTrek-Gamers haven't said a single word about the supposed 'Partner'.

STG previous parnter - History lesson Pt 3.

This is Part 3 of a multiple Part Blog Post, Read the other parts here:
[ Announcement ] [ part 1 ] [ part 2 ] [ part 3 ] [ part 4 ]

[School Room : Door Reads STG History ]
Scoot in close children while we continue our lesson. StarBuck and Age... please stop holding hands. Now waaay back in Dec 2004 Victor1st quits and and says "Blizzard games is where its at" and shuts down the site. Then after a couple weeks returns for people like 'Timmy'... and brings in Tony as the new site directory.

So with STG sporting the ultra cool new 'Under New Management' logo Tony takes over and promptly posts a front page news post that is about an hour long. Now I could post that here but rather then making you read it all I'll post the full post in the comments to this blog entry... cause it runs and runs like the hershy squirts. Now there was a glimmer of hope that under Tony the community would not be subjected to the attacks and lies and spins that was VicTurd1sts daily drama. And for a few days it seemed that way... but when the community sites didn't immediately drop everything and join in Tony's efforts (remember they have been under attack by Vic and everyone was sick of it)... we'll Tony first bailed and went awol for a short while then re-appeared declaring war.

The whole era of Tony lasted a whopping month. His first post was December 6, 2004... his final post was January 16, 2005... just a bit over a month with a good week in there where he didn't say anything to anyone. Here is where you can see he begins to lose it... funny how Tony's writing looks alot like Vics doesn't it... same mispellings... same structure... same style... but Tony isn't a family member so why is that?

We apologise Posted by Tony on 1/12/2005 at 11:53 pm Front Page of Site

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The staff of STGD apologise for not being here.

The main reason is the continueing harrasment by STGU and trek-online members threatning Vic, Myself and katie who no longer works here. Chessmess suported the staff of trek-online (who threatened katie with rape) and now that Harry Lang (paramounts lead on trek gaming) has been seen to support Chessmess alot of once avid trek gamers of BoTF, Armada and EF Series games have left.

I have sent a handwritten letter to Mr Sumner Redstone, the CEO of Viacom which owns Paramount. The slandering of the STGD now ends here, even if it spells the end of the trek game franchise. All visitors of trek-online and STGU, you brought it on yourselfs by some of your more avid followers continueing to threaten the staff of this site.

Now the storm will begin.

=========================================

Posted by Victor in the forums on 1/12/2005 at 11:59pm

I just want to make a post here saying i support what Tony has done. If Lang is not willing to listen then his bosses are. I will also be contacting GameSpy as they are hosting STGU. As tony has said, i have been in and out of hospital, 3 weeks of harrasement by trek-online and STGU members. If Lang (who supports chessmess) doesnt deal with it, then Mr Redstone will. As we have contiued to say...STGD is the
NUMBER 1 trek game site. A lot of people out there are discusted by the personal threats made by trek-online staff in the past and discusted by the support of STGU which is hosted by gamespy. Now is the time for STGD to deal with it.

Here again you can see its all some other sites fault for what they have to do... some things never change. At this point Tony begins sending out emails to people in the community attacking them for their non-support. Then when its clear that he's getting as hated as Vic was he makes a final post and disappears....

Posted Front Page of website on 1/16/2005

Due to a lot of problems with the base code of the site the whole STGD had to be taken offline to prevent a further disaster in the FTP, normal services will return soon. I myself have also come to the conclusion that the time for the STGD to stand up and be counted has arrived. As for me personally (this is Tony typing this) I neither have the time, or the inclination to deal with the anmount of hassle that Vic has had to deal with during the 5 years of running this site. People in the community who say they are "for" the community are really only interested in there own perogatives and there own beleifs for what this once massive gaming franchise meant. As i have said, i sent a letter to Mr Redstone, it will probably be on his desk anytime soon.

As for me, I am leaving the Trek gaming community and heading off to pastures new. Some of you who remember me as a small moderator in the old ST-Armada boards will remember me saying that i would never leave this community, that i would never turn my back on the people who gave so much to this franchise for so little praise, well, the time has come. The big "community" sites are now too busy targeting this site to try and take it down. I will no longer be a part of a gamming community whos top sites attack and target this place, which is the LONGEST running trek gaming fan site in existance. I leave this site back in the hands of Victor, I have taken the gloves off for him, what he decides to do next is on the heads of the so called "community"
leaders. On discussions of leaving Vic has decided to revert the whole site back to the days of the STCD when it was truley on it own. As it stands now ladies and gentlemen the STGD is again on it own. Ignored by other community sites, targeted for extinction by some community sites and generally reviled by Paramount. This site is the last, best hope for a true voice in the gaming comminity to be heard. It is still
the top site after half a decade of war with other community sites and as far as Vic is concerned it will continue to report the REAL news about trek gaming, the REAL sorry bad shape the franchise is in to REAL gamers who visit THIS site. STGD is back in the hands of the clan world, where it should have remained in the first place instead of trying to go "mainstream" to please everyone else who runs fansites.

Anthony McAdam "Jester" aka "JesterGrove"

This line is classic... "what he decides to do next is on the heads of the so called 'community' leaders". LMAO! Tony is already placing blame for whatever VicTurd1st does on everyone else! Classic VicTurd blame game.

So there you have it... the history of Tony. Was Tony real or was he fake? Here is what WildCard from Trek-Online had to say about 'Tony' and the whole VicTurd situation...

Posted March 20th, 2005 on Trek-Online Front Page

I do know that Tony aka Victor registered on trek-online's forums, Victor and Tony have the same IP address.

I know that Tony sent multiple emails to Harry Lang trying to get back into the good graces of Harry after acting like smacktards over on the STGU forums.
Tony aka Victor explained to Harry Lang that the reason that the e-mail’s IP address is the same as Victor Tony happened to be at Victor's house that morning when he sent it. Now Harry Lang didn’t ask or inquire anything about an IP, this was Victor covering his tracks just in case.

Now you have Victor registering on Taldren's forums, the Dynaverse.net forum's, and a few other forums. Always with Katherine registered as well, because she always makes a post as well usually first. Now when Victor acts like the raving lunatic he is and get banned you see him cry
QUOTE
they have banned the entire staff of the webs #1 Fan Game site


I used to be a moderator on the STGD when my Mod "The Near Distant Future" was hosted there, I saw Victors, Katherine's, and Nicole's email addresses and IP. I know. His explanation to me was that they (Nicole and Katherine at the time) use his computer.


Have you ever wondered why when Vic or Katherine gets banned they all get banned? I know why, they are all the same person, Victor has only one IP and it belongs to all the persona's he has aka Tony, Victor, Katherine, and Nicole. It happened when he got banned at Taldren, Dynaverse.net, and the STGU.

He has used aliases to get in IRC channels and gain SOP rights. Used Fake Gamespy Wizard Names, he has been caught red handed registering on multiple forums as Victor and Katherine and having the same IP address.

This is the same person and site that brags about joining a Fleet or Clan just to break them apart because they do not share the STGD's thoughts. Victor has bragged about destroying Fleets and website's for having a disagreement with him. That is not an action of a sane individual.

Now what more proof do you need that Victor is a Raving Lunatic? He has a few brainwashed STGD minion worshipers like Age, and a few others but the rest of the community has seen Victor for the Fake he is. Victor does not care about this community, he cares about the strife he can cause this community.

I swore I would not let his ranting effect me here, and I swore I would never answer his banter, but sometimes you need to inform the community about a threat. Victor and the STGD are, and will remain a threat to any community they come into contact with.

Says it all doesn't it... nice to remember WildCard back before he started acting like VicTurd... sad to see how far the dude has fallen.

Well... The StarTrek-Gamers.com (then Star Trek Clan Director or STGD) New Managmenet acted just like the old Management and VicTurds partner lasted barely a month. At the end Tony did the exact same things VicTurd was doing before he took over and everyone knew by that point that Tony was really VicTurd ... so he had to throw that make believe guy out the window no one was buying his BS.

Here it is Tuesday and still no STG Partner announcement... lol ... maybe they are hoping if they say nothing no one will remember? lmao!

Up next in Pt4... the final lesson... we see the first news post made after Tony leaves and VicTurd1st and Katurine 'resume control' of the site.

(Don't forget to Email me your VicTurd BS stories to VicsAPrat at Gamil)

STG previous parnter - History lesson Pt 2

This is Part 2 of a multiple Part Blog Post, Read the other parts here:
[ Announcement ] [ part 1 ] [ part 2 ] [ part 3 ] [ part 4 ]

Here it is Monday and still no revelation about the new "Partner". Could "We Don't Buy Your BS" have derailed the BS train on Vics latest scheme? It would seem so... I mean how hard is it to post "Joe Schmo has joined STG as a full partner". Not very... unless of course its a big load of BS and you got some pita blogger showing people the truth you don't want them to see. Yea... then it's really really hard. lmao!

So lets recap:

• Victor1st shuts down StarTrek-Gamers.com in Dec of '04


• Victor1st is going to start up a World of Warcraft site and leaves Star Trek Gaming behind


• Kathrine is going to start a Star Wars Clan Directory that has been requested by none other then Lucas Arts themselves!


• They post on multiple sites their "So long we'll never be back" post on their front page and in forums at several sites

Now the site goes 404 gone. SGN (their hosts at the time) puts up a new subdomain for them and they put up a forum for World Of Warcraft. So for the next couple of weeks they get a couple postings by old STG forum groupies and absolutely zero interest in their site from anyone in the WoW world.

After two whole weeks in their new game they promptly shut down the WoW site and bring back StarTrek-Gamers. Many thought the announcement of STG leaving was rubbish and knew he'd be back. VicTurd1st realized that he wasn't getting the outcry by the Trek Gaming community to return... so he... lmao... hard to say this with a straight face... he invents 'Timmy' and 'Tony'. Timmy sounds just like the little cripple boy outta the story "A Christmas Carol"... and finally you get to meet Tony... check it out:

12/2/04 - STGD Website comes back online

*strolls into the STGD boards and looks around....*

hmmm....


A week or so ago when the STGD closed it's doors a lot of speculation
started about why it closed. To put it simply folks...I had enough of
the place, still do actually. I've been in trek gaming for just under
a decade and basically single handedly running the top Star Trek
gaming site for the past half a decade. The fact that the hits for
the front page only went down by 100 in the 5 to 10 days the site was
down is a testament to the amount of followers in the trek game world
that kept coming back hopeing the site would re-open. The THOUSANDS
of emails (yeah, over 3000 emails) i received during the closure of
the site basically forced me to re-think the closure of the STGD and
the associated network of sites.

Many people who emailed me said they are the silent gamers. The
gamers who do not mod, do not go for the clan thing and only play
online games every week or so but use this site as there homepage and
to check up on files and the latest news in the ever decreasing world
of Star Trek clans.

When STGD's plug was pulled last week I thought trek gaming was
already on it's deathbed, already laying in state and the gamers are
slowly passing by paying it's respects. Have i changed my mind about
that cause i brought the site up? No...i still think trek gaming is
laying in state and we are all passing by paying our repsects, but
there is a different attitude now which brought the site back online.
Why sit here with the largest single site resource of trek gaming and
just let the game franchise die?

Good question...

In a late night chat with Tony, the new STGD director for the network
and site, and Claire Venra, who will be working on the new upcoming
additions for the modders of the trek game world, we came to a
decision to reopen STGD. Not for the sake of the clans, most of them
probably havent even noticed STGD has actually closed. Not for the
sake of the modders either, all the modders have found new homes in
trek-online and the new STGDesque boards that Casca, Tophat,
Cozboooooooo! *cough* and the gang has set up.

So why is this site, the most regonised and talked about site in trek
gaming back?

It's back for people like Tim who is 12 years old and wrote the
following simple email...


Quote:
please donot close the stcd down. it has been around for alot of years
and alot of people inmy school in the usa who play star trek games on
network in the school with our teachers dring breaks visit your site
every few days to pick up new files and game mods. we only visit stgd
as the site is easy to look around.


Tim is in the US, has just found Star Trek gaming and it seems his
teachers in his school visited the old site regularly although never
sent emails, never posted in the forum, they just used the site for
news and files.

STGD is back for people like Tim and the people in his school who have
found trek gaming, it'snow here for the gamer first and foremost.
Modders and clans will as always find the STGD as the one stop shop
for all there needs but a new emphasis on the individual gamer of trek
gaming, the silent majority, will now take shape in trek gaming.

It is true that during the past 3 months, as wildcard says in his
forums, STGD has burned a lot of bridges behind us. Those bridges are
still smoking and go back to a time in trek gaming when the STGD
itself was facing a changeing trek game world. Sure, a lot of people
have left trek gaming and sure Paramount basically dont realise just
how much damage trek gaming will take in the 3 years betwen now and
the release of the fabled Star Trek Online game (for more info on STO,
visit the STGD's partner...link is on the lower left).

Changes to the STGD are starting to take hold, for 5 years the site
has been familly ran, with only me and the Venra's having complete and
total control of the direction and view's of the site. It;s now time
for the community, the gamers, clans and modders to have there own say
on the site. Plans for the STGD site to go into 2005 which was drawn
up over the past 8 months will now slowly be put into place, entire
new sections to cater for trek gaming news, views and interviews will
open up and appear during the next month and leading into 2005. More
STGD site and forum interaction with player jornals based in the forum
and site based news portals being tied direct into the site will also
start to take shape, and when the backbone of the site is put back in
place...site job positions will be available for the first time in 5
years the community will be able to work FOR the with and not just
WITH the site.

With the pulling power this site has in all trek games (not just SFC
series) it means there will be better and more opportunities for
gamers of Armada to interact with gamers from Starfleet Command 3 is a
way that has NEVER been tried before by a gaming fan site for trek
gaming.

No more sectioning off the gamers for each game into there own little
sections, what we need now in trek gaming is more interaction between
the different gamers of the different game's online to give there
views and news to each other in a centralised network of portals and
news pages, and when the structure is complete Paramount and Perpetual
can use our partner's site at STO:Central and then the STGD itself to
guage the views of the exisiting gamers, and the realtively new gamers
who are waiting for the new MMORPG.

Sounds like pie in the sky plans to you?

Half of the new network is already in place, the other half is being
worked on by me personally to be held to Tony for the main site. STGD
got bogged down in politics and the too'ings and fro'ings of the trek
game world. When this site actually starts to get serious about trek
gaming people will tell you, a lot of other game sites follow our
lead.

It's time to look to the future of Star Trek gaming, if not for
ourselfs, for the people like Tim who will be the new generation of
trek gamers to replace us old farts in a decade's time.

Victor
Former STGD Director

Bwhahahaha... Poor Tim. Can you imagine the outcry in the school when STGD closed its door? Little 12 year old Timmy and his teachers couldn't go to the only site they visited for Trek gaming anymore. His teachers went there because he and and his teachers played star trek games on the network during breaks. Anyone here been to a middle school where the teachers and students play Star Trek games during breaks? Didn't think so.

The fact that the hits for
the front page only went down by 100 in the 5 to 10 days the site was
down is a testament to the amount of followers in the trek game world
that kept coming back hoping the site would re-open. The THOUSANDS
of emails (yeah, over 3000 emails) i received during the closure

Can you imagine it... over 3000 in 10 days... that's over 300 a day! 300 every single day. Oh I believe he got 3000 emails... but 99% of them were spam about some herbal viagra or hot stock picks. LMAO! BS Alert!

It is true that during the past 3 months, as wildcard says in his
forums, STGD has burned a lot of bridges behind us. Those bridges are
still smoking and go back to a time in trek gaming when the STGD
itself was facing a changeing trek game world.

Funny that as much as things change... some things stay the same. StarTrek-Gamers burning bridges and causing chaos goes all the way back to when they began and still continues today... and will go on indefinitely. Weeeeeeeee! Round and Round the poop she goes... where VicTurd1st will throw it next only he knows.... lol!

In a late night chat with Tony, the new STGD director for the network
and site, and Claire Venra, who will be working on the new upcoming
additions for the modders of the trek game world, we came to a
decision to reopen STGD. Not for the sake of the clans, most of them
probably havent even noticed STGD has actually closed. Not for the
sake of the modders either, all the modders have found new homes in
trek-online and the new STGDesque boards that Casca, Tophat,
Cozboooooooo! *cough* and the gang has set up.

One wonders how one can BS so much without tripping and slipping in their own droppings... we'll VicTurd does it all the time and its easy to see. Take the above statement... he admits that clans didn't notice and modder didn't care... and yet they got over 3,000 emails! lmao! No one noticed... except 3,000 different individuals... can ya smell the BS in all this? yup.. loads of it.

And Tony the newly announced STGD Director for the network! Woop there it is! Whoop there it is! Good ole Tony McAdam... professed long time Trek gamer (who no one knew) and moderator of the official Armada 1 boards (who no one remember being said moderator).

Tony became STGD's site Director and pave the wave for a new era... a new partner! What with Tim, 3000 emails, Tony, and the rest of it your getting near lethal exposure to BS so we'll have to call it a day.

Up Next... Tony implements the 'Community Survival Project', followed by attacks on everyone and then up and vanishes like a fart in the wind.

Want your comment published? Don't Cuss

If yer gonna use curse words in your comment its not going to get published.... period. I don't care if you are for or against what you read... but if ya curse in your comment then it gets tossed. I like having anonomous commenting on so people don't have to register to comment... but doesn't mean you can cuss in the comments.

STG previous parnter - History lesson Pt 1.

This is Part 1 of a multiple Part Blog Post, Read the other parts here:
[ Announcement ] [ part 1 ] [ part 2 ] [ part 3 ] [ part 4 ]

So STG is getting a full partner now... course they 'considered' merging with another site but thought better of it (of course)... so now we await the big news on 'who its gonna be'. But ya know what... gotta think ol VicTurd1st is sweatin cause now he nows his buddies right here have donned the gas mask and reached into the septic tank to pull out his ... Turds of the past!

Ya see now that your gettin the lowdown on Tony he's thinking he has to get someone people actually know... cause if he gets someone nobody knows then that just shows its nothing but a shame. So hes gotta find someone who says they are a partner but won't really be a partner... or he's gonna say that the partner he was going to get has been hit by a car... or has seen all the crap from the community and wants no part of it. Course he could pull in another 'family' member... then its not really a partner either cause then it'd be just like the old days when Vic would rant and then leave and katie would take over... then katie would rant and Vic would resume control... back and forth like and on and on.

Anyway you heard it here first... within 6 months (more like 6 weeks) of this new partner joining they will leave... either hit by a bus... of kicked out because of something... or they didn't want to do it anymore cause no one was listening... just wait and see. That is if they even do it now that they know it'll be called out right here. LMAO! I can see Vic hunched over his keyboard thinking "damn that site... I hate em!"

haha ... ok... on to the history lesson

Before you can learn of Tony you have to learn about what happened right before Tony showed up. VicTurd1st had been attacking sites as usual and just going nuts because his site was turning into a ghost town. You've probably hear him say at least once that STG has "NEVER leave the community" and "THIS SITE HAS NEVER SHUT DOWN" blah blah blah. He makes it a point to say how he has always been here for the community.

Bzzzt! Wrong! BS ALERT!

Back in Nov of 2004 the Star Trek Gamers left the community! GASP! Ohhh the horror of it! Left as in 404 Error Page not Found left. Complete shutdown.

Mind you that this lasted all of two weeks... and ohh man you won't believe the BS they posted as to why they returned... but thats for later. Here is the post they threw on as many sites as possible and on their front page:

Nov 2004 - An announcement from the STGD staff

This weekend will mark the end of the 5 year run of the original Star
Trek Clan Directory.

The site itself will oficially go offline friday night after the
directory is stripped out and the downloads system is stripped out.
It's been a long 5 years, i feel the time for the STGD is now over
with more clans playing newer more better supported games and less
clans taking part in the STGD (some clans not visiting us at all) it
means that the pulling power of the site has waned over the past 2
years.

We would rather pull the site down while it is still riding high than
watch it suffer during 2005.

From the original Armada Clan Directory back in 1999/2000 to the new
Star Trek Gamers Directory launched 2004 the whole series of sites has
seen the rise and fall of star trek gaming, we feel it's time is now
over.

I would like to thank all the fleets who have supported the original
site and this new one especially SF, RS, RNGD, Q, UNO, SFC, 11thFleet
(of which i recently joined), UFP, ELITE and FoH.

If i missed anyone out im sorry, but there are so many clans who have
shown myself and Katherine support during the past half a decade.

Trek gamng will live on without STGD, however i must warn you all,
2005 will be a very bad year for the fleets of trek gaming, with no
new games out this year and none out in 2005 and only a beta out 2006
with a final game out 2007 it means if you have not done so yet i
would SERIOUSLY consider taking your clan into one or 2 non star trek
games, like BF1942, EQ2, WoW and the likes.

STGD does not mean trek gaming will collapse, although a lot of people
will be running around like headless chickens for a few weeks thinking
it will. There are still some sites out there that cater for the
gaming populace of trek gamers, the main one that springs to mind is
www.stgu.com and of course Raven Knights Starfleet Command, Bridge
Commander and Elite Force Universe sites.

The main mod directory will remain open for a further month to aloow
modders to download any work we are hosting on there behalf. Any
hosted sites will remain on the FTP until they are able to find a new
host, we will NOT just shut your hosted site down, take as long as you
need to find a good stable host, then contact me via
victor1st@gmail.com to inform me that you have found a host.

To access the main mod directory, visit
http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/downloads/pafiledb.php

As for the former STGD staff?

http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/wow

Our future is in Blizzard games, the above site is just a test site
for a gamers site which will eclipse the content that the STGD had in
its 5 year history, if you are going to be playing World of Warcraft
you'll catch me and katherine in the new site once it is launched.

Update:

Even in closing, they still bash us...this will give you an idea of
the lowlife scum who are populating trek games thesedays...

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~starmada/forum/showthread.php?p=75546#post75546


Quote:
Someone over on my forums said that STGD has a post saying that STGD
is closing down and so is thier front page as well! I dont care ive
been banned from thier for some time! Iam simple not surprised, they
ban anyone that they dont like or dont agree with! All i can see is
that It will better for the community! Iam sick and tired of the
dividing that has accured due to the bad taste btw the community and
STGD! Its time for the community heal and come together and move
forward!

Acidrain



Thanks for the 5 years of memories...to the pondlife like
Acidrain...burn in hell.

Victor Mullin
Katherine Venra-Wilson
Nicola Venra
Claire Venra
James Wilson

The STCD/STGD Staff
1999 ~ 2004

Ok so now when STG claims they've never left... now you know the real truth. There isn't much to say about this... however its good info to have in the back of your head when comments like "We Never Left the Community" are thrown out. It's probably good to also include Katies last post to the community that preceeded this by a couple weeks and is an indication of how much hate they were spreading through the community (and getting back for doing it):

10-08-2004, 07:46 PM #1
Posted by Katherine Wilson
Location: Bensley, Irvine, Scotland
Posts: 50

After 4years in Star Trek gaming i am leaving. After WildCard of GQ, LordUppity of RSC and a few other leaders of minor fleets like GQ and RSC supported the rape threat i received recently i feel there is no use supporting people like GQ "FatMan" WildCard or the leader of RSC (LordUppity) who feels that fleets like RS, SFC and SF should die because they do not conform to what there "vision" of trek gaming should be. Yeah, i was threatened with rape from a former member of 11th fleet who was thrown out and DISGRACED by that fleet long before this incident happened. The website of that particular fleet will be brought down very soon, there hosting company has been informed and my lawyer now has the address of the person who threatened me.

WildCard, who called RSC a "bunch of gays" and called LordUppity "a mental retard" while at the same time releaseing propoganda with nazi intent against them is now looking at RSC and callng them best friends cause GQ "FatMan" WildCard is now running a fleet whos own council is ready to throw him out. Yeah, WildCard supports the rape of females, and so does all of his allies. WildCard and LordUppity are the reason i feel it is time for me to move on, both of them, including the leaders and webmasters of dynaverse.net (CueBall(less), Kortez (yellow streak) and the rest have brought trek gaming down to the level it is now at, the gutter. WildCard's own place of work has been monitoring chat sessions and forum conversations, it means he will probably lose his job soon.

STGD has been threatened with lawsuits from dynaverse.net (CueBallLess and Kortez...whos yellow streak is getting longer) along with RSC and WildCard, infact WildCard (fatman) said that STGD was a terrorist threat. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE LAWSUIT! Ohh, and GQ's own council have nicknamed Wildcard "the fat redneck retard" i just thought i should give him a taste of it in public as a parting gift for him supporting the things that he seen, his own council know he is a liability to GQ, they are just too scared to throw him out and because of this it means that GQ's council will also be DRIVEN out of Star Trek gaming.

The worst part is the fleets like RS, SFC, Q, SF and the likes whom STCD and STGD has supported for more than 5 years. DO they bother to lend a hand to the OLDEST trek game site on the net? No, they dont. SF, SFC, RS and the likes only contact us if they need to use us. When they see this site in trouble they ignore us, which is a bit like the rest of the story about Parmaount, STGU and the rest of these so called "community" leaders.

Paramount have killed this franchise. The fleet's know it, the modders know it and the majority of the rest of the fan sites know it. STGD is not scared to say it but then STGU criticise us for saying it. STGU criticise the REAL FLEETS (not the 2 bit ones like FCN) who post here. Almost 90% of the fleets of trek gaming refuse to post in STGU due to the outright bias and prejudice that STGU have given to the fleets. It aint only STGU either, Paramount can be dealt the same hand as well.

In the "official" ST; Online board there is threads made by people in there where they are discussing the "resriction" of fleets in this new MMORPG (which will be a failure) NOT PARAMOUNT OR PERPETUAL has bothered to answer them back, there is now a majority of fleets who have said that they no longer trust Perpetual or the new MMORPG, Vic tried to warn them, but he was ignored. The S.T.A.B has already FAILED before it even got its feet off the ground cause from what i have seen neither Perpetual, Paramount of STGU/Chessmess give a DAMN about the fleet community, the only site thats left who does is STGD, and now we are being hounded out of the community.

Star Trek gaming is dead, it died the minute people like "FatMan" WildCard was allowed to rip off other mods and get away with it. It died when the REAL fleets like RS, SF and SFC stopped careing about what is left of this community, Devil Jones, Unimatrix and Nelson, if there was ever a time to show what kind of REAL power you guys have in trek gaming then do it NOW before it is too late. The rest of the fleets are looking to you guys for direction and NONE of you are giving it.

Now that they have stopped careing, i have as well.

A new Star Wars site is being founded by Vic, im off to run that and the actual game developers asked us to form the site. Star Wars supports what we are doing more than Star Trek does. Harry Lang should resign, it is not just me who thinks that, more than half of the trek gamers think that.

If anyone has any comments to the news story then go to the STGD boards at http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/forum as no one has been able to comment in the STGU "Neutral" (neutral my ass) news system for a while now.

If you want to sue STGD join the queue of losers like WildCard (fatman) who wants to sue a website who doesnt use real names, and if you are wildcard then maybe you should excercise a bit and get ready for your council to throw you out, just like ya backstabbed coman all those months ago. Have fun "FatMan"!

STAR TREK GAMING IS DEAD, GO PLAY STARWARS GAMES!

Katherne Venra-Wilson
STCD/STGD staff member, 2001 ~ 2004

Now THAT is what i call a swan-song

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Note from Victor1st
I left this up, Katie has done more for trek gaming than Paramount or any of you have ever done, she has even done more for this game genre than i have...and THAT is saying something.

RSC and GQ, hang your heads in SHAME.

Ok so now you know to an extent what was going on before the shutdown... and you saw the post about the shutdown. This is probably a good reminder to WildFart and Acid4Brain on what they seem to have forgotten and what they will at some point in the future experience again in due time.

Course there is so much BS in Katies post that you might as well just hang a sign on it and say its condemned... rather then go into all the details (sometimes there is so much BS in the things they say and do you just can't address it all). Here is a absolute BS statement that makes you lol...

A new Star Wars site is being founded by Vic, im off to run that and the actual game developers asked us to form the site.

Yea.. get that Vic and Katie were telling people that LucasArts had contacted them and wanted them to setup a STGD for Star Wars! LMAO!

In the next blog post you'll get to see the laughable reason they come back and you get to meet Tony! The fart in the wind! Betcha can't wait! LMAO!